http://citrusjava.livejournal.com/ ([identity profile] citrusjava.livejournal.com) wrote in [personal profile] citrusjava 2013-04-28 10:08 pm (UTC)

Honestly, the Batcave is a little bit over the top. It's up there with the TARDIS. I loe the boys enough to be willing to let go of the whole "we have nothing in the world, but it's OK as long as we have each other", and be happy with them having a bunch of good stuff and still loving each other. Even if it means they are no longer as desperately broke as I can be.

But one thing I *really* dislike in this season (warning, grumbles ahead), is that the boys seem to be taking their "rightful" place as, IDK, baby patriarchs. Dean was always *always* outside of society. Even when he was sexist etc. - it was in a way he considered to be "bad boy". But this season, the oys and particularly Dean feel it's their place to come into town, expect to get answers and explanations for people about their lifestyles, and see it as their role, as representatives of social order to decide what's right. It was pretty present in Freaks and Geeks, deciding whether it's a good way for kids to grow up or not way before there was suspicion of evil, as if it was their place in any way. And I could have smacked Dean in Man's Best Friend. Both Sam and him objectified Portia and treated her very disrespectfully. But Dean, after almost *killing her life partner* just in case, saw no problem with demanding Portia answered his condescending, very personal, nosy questions about her life. WTF.

Anyway - since they started behaving like this around the time they got the Batcave, I'm comfortable wanking it into "the boys are becoming hegemonic".

Sam would be forced to learn yet again that there is no middle road. I hope I'm wrong

*groan*
Not again...

But even if so - just to have something for the next season...
They were, btw, told to destroy the place (I thought the Golem would stay inside, to care for it), and just went ahead and forgot about that, not followup, even.
Perhaps it'll still come.

See, Dean seemed different to me from 8.01 on. He's very warm with Benny all along, and he seems more understanding with the people of the week--he's sympathetic with the old woman who'd married the Aztec god, and he was willing to let the werewolf girl go, as opposed to his reaction to Amy last season. And when Cas came back Dean got him to talk about his feelings in 8.08, which isn't necessarily a very Dean thing to do. Plus, the heavy drinking had stopped.


Hmm... that is also all true.
Especially the feels parts, with Benny and with Cas <3
oh, feeling Dean. You are wonderful <3


The last scene of 8.10 actually broke my heart when it aired

Me too, but I saw it differently. To me, that was the beginning of what came next (though it was ridiculously unexpected). Sam *chose* Dean. He had a very good alternative, to him. A normal life with a woman he loved. But still he chose Dean - finally, for the first time since forever chose life with Dean. And I feel that changed Dean, to finally stop being terrified Sam wanted to leave him for a normal life. To finally know (ish) that Sam was there with him, not cause Dean manipulated him into it, and not cause he had to save the world or was falling apart or something - but cause that's what Sam chose for himself. Not even casue he was that worried about Dean - he knew Dean had Benny. Sam chose him, and now he could take a breath and just get better, in so many little ways. Could finally approve of what Sam was doing, for the first time in forever (that "You're a MOL now" scene). Could be playful again.

I found 8.11 and what came after sort of whiplash inducing because it didn't feel to me like a natural progression of their relationship, but I'm so happy about the positivity of the second half of the season that I'm willing to let it go

EXACTLY.
That's what I meant.

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