manipulating may be a strong word, but I'm basically talking about some of the guilt trips he lays on (which Sam gets his fair share of too, actually :( ...), throwing past mistakes up in people's (Sam, Cas) faces until they cave and do what he wants, etc...
The bit where Cas nearly killed him stands out to me, because Dean told him "we're family... i need you" and then next time Cas turned up, having been tortured and in desperate need of help, Dean helped him *physically*, yes, but was as cold and hard as I've ever seen him be to someone he said he cared about :/
What you said about him saying they're strong being his way of believing in them makes sense, too... I've recently become of the opinion that Dean doesn't realize how he hurts Cas's feelings, etc, because in Dean's eyes, Cas is still that invulnerable, awe-inspiring creature he met in 4.1 ...
What he said to Sam in the beginning of this episode was somewhat telling to me when Sam asked if Cas was human and he said "-ish." It's like even knowing he is human, Dean still can't quite fathom the idea. And that is what leads into the next bit of that conversation, where he is sure that Cas will make it back to them just fine all on his own.
Newly human, no money or weapons or anything, being hunted by the *thousands* of fallen angels that can easily find him...
Yeaaaaah.... no way *that* goes sideways :/
I love Dean fiercely but he also just drives me *mad* sometimes :P lol
And PS: Yeah, Spike was my first ever fandom obsession :D My friend just pointed out to me with my new Destiel obsession - I have a thing for the "painful, unrequited" thing, apparently :P hehe
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The bit where Cas nearly killed him stands out to me, because Dean told him "we're family... i need you" and then next time Cas turned up, having been tortured and in desperate need of help, Dean helped him *physically*, yes, but was as cold and hard as I've ever seen him be to someone he said he cared about :/
What you said about him saying they're strong being his way of believing in them makes sense, too... I've recently become of the opinion that Dean doesn't realize how he hurts Cas's feelings, etc, because in Dean's eyes, Cas is still that invulnerable, awe-inspiring creature he met in 4.1 ...
What he said to Sam in the beginning of this episode was somewhat telling to me when Sam asked if Cas was human and he said "-ish." It's like even knowing he is human, Dean still can't quite fathom the idea. And that is what leads into the next bit of that conversation, where he is sure that Cas will make it back to them just fine all on his own.
Newly human, no money or weapons or anything, being hunted by the *thousands* of fallen angels that can easily find him...
Yeaaaaah.... no way *that* goes sideways :/
I love Dean fiercely but he also just drives me *mad* sometimes :P lol
And PS: Yeah, Spike was my first ever fandom obsession :D My friend just pointed out to me with my new Destiel obsession - I have a thing for the "painful, unrequited" thing, apparently :P hehe