Thank you! And sorry it took me a while to answer, it's been a busy couple of days.
I've been seeing this Dean gets the emotional story and Sam carries the plot argument cropping up ever since S2 (I wrote an embarrassingly long meta arguing the opposite of this for S1-S3, which if I did the same for S4-S9, I'm not sure the same argument would stand)
That sounds really interesting!
I have to admit that I've even started to become exasperated with the little screen time Sam's head space gets being that it wouldn't be that hard to do.
YES.
And it would be nice to see Dean starting to realize that he needs to break this cycle of sacrifice everything for Sam (even, ironically, Sam); that sort of maturity/self-realization would be powerful even if Dean never manged to actually stop behaving in the same way.
I believe he has some inkling - or perhaps way more - about that, but yeah, there is definitely more to go.
I like you thought about him knowing but not changing his behavior a lot.
I'd like him to realize how much he influences Sam, and how much Sam is starving for his approval, makes his life around Dean and so forth. Even if only so he can be glad Sam cares that much about him, or even less - just so he knows. Even when Sam said it to him clearly, Dean still didn't get it.
I wish Show would just choose one (or more, but for real) of those emotional arcs and follow it in every episode, even in just a tiny little way. Preferably at least one for each boy.
It's inevitable that the world fan's have created will not jive with canon and people lose their shiny love and get grumpy because it's disappointing when reality doesn't live up to expectation (esp. those in fandom bec. we feel strongly about these characters, this story and get very protective).
<3 Oh, fandom, i love you so. And yeah, I agree that there was a huge shift in vibe and in a lot of other stuff in seasoon 4. makes sense that people would be disappointed. The show is also theirs, especially since in SPN the fans played such a huge part in keeping it going, from what I understand.
I find it interesting that Show's general popularity (ratings) have jumped in the past seasons. I can't help but think, "If you like this, your minds would be blown in back in S1/S2."
I'm a late joiner myself, only been around for over a year. Perhaps it's just about more people discovering the show than getting disappointed and leaving.
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And sorry it took me a while to answer, it's been a busy couple of days.
I've been seeing this Dean gets the emotional story and Sam carries the plot argument cropping up ever since S2 (I wrote an embarrassingly long meta arguing the opposite of this for S1-S3, which if I did the same for S4-S9, I'm not sure the same argument would stand)
That sounds really interesting!
I have to admit that I've even started to become exasperated with the little screen time Sam's head space gets being that it wouldn't be that hard to do.
YES.
And it would be nice to see Dean starting to realize that he needs to break this cycle of sacrifice everything for Sam (even, ironically, Sam); that sort of maturity/self-realization would be powerful even if Dean never manged to actually stop behaving in the same way.
I believe he has some inkling - or perhaps way more - about that, but yeah, there is definitely more to go.
I like you thought about him knowing but not changing his behavior a lot.
I'd like him to realize how much he influences Sam, and how much Sam is starving for his approval, makes his life around Dean and so forth. Even if only so he can be glad Sam cares that much about him, or even less - just so he knows. Even when Sam said it to him clearly, Dean still didn't get it.
I wish Show would just choose one (or more, but for real) of those emotional arcs and follow it in every episode, even in just a tiny little way. Preferably at least one for each boy.
It's inevitable that the world fan's have created will not jive with canon and people lose their shiny love and get grumpy because it's disappointing when reality doesn't live up to expectation (esp. those in fandom bec. we feel strongly about these characters, this story and get very protective).
<3
Oh, fandom, i love you so. And yeah, I agree that there was a huge shift in vibe and in a lot of other stuff in seasoon 4. makes sense that people would be disappointed. The show is also theirs, especially since in SPN the fans played such a huge part in keeping it going, from what I understand.
I find it interesting that Show's general popularity (ratings) have jumped in the past seasons. I can't help but think, "If you like this, your minds would be blown in back in S1/S2."
I'm a late joiner myself, only been around for over a year. Perhaps it's just about more people discovering the show than getting disappointed and leaving.