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This might be of interest to some people here.
I feel like I know this song, but regardless - pretty cool to get a song from a guy saying he's into role playing as a girl for his female partner. Or for anyone, really :-)





You wanna hitch a ride
So what about my pride
Your dirty fantasies are 'bout to make me lose my mind.
Tonight we switch our roles
See who is in control
You wanna know what sex would be like if you were a boy?

I will play the girl
Tell me what you want
I will wear your skirt
Got me going
I will play the girl
If it turns you on and on and on and on and

And when the sun goes down
Just spin me to the ground
Make me give up control
Tell me what you want
Tell me what you want
Tell me what you

I'm switching off my mind
Release the freak inside
And when the sun goes down
Tell me what you want
Tell me what you want
Tell me what you

You've got me curious
You're shaking up my bones
Put on a uniform you're taking me out of my zone
You want us to explore?
Come in and close the door
I like it when you're naughty come and spoil me to the core

Date: 2014-04-22 11:38 pm (UTC)
tabaqui: (spikeblack&violetbygilkurtisctxt)
From: [personal profile] tabaqui
That is a cool song. I kept hoping he's appear 'as a girl', but you can't have everything. :) A sex-positive, woman-empowering song! Yay!

Date: 2014-04-22 11:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] citrusjava.livejournal.com
IKR, the video is so... bland, regular, women as props... if ever there was a time for those visuals...

Date: 2014-04-22 11:59 pm (UTC)
tabaqui: (spikeblack&violetbygilkurtisctxt)
From: [personal profile] tabaqui
Exactly, the vid's all hyper-masculine look-at-me-with-these-sexy-babes. But, you know - baby steps, i guess? Since i don't have the slightest clue who this guy is or what his fanbase is like, maybe in concert he comes out in heels and corset, i dunno!

:)

Date: 2014-04-23 12:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] citrusjava.livejournal.com
what you said! Perhaps his fanbase is all gay guys, so the really out there part is the sex with the girl part?

Date: 2014-04-23 12:42 am (UTC)
tabaqui: (spikeblack&violetbygilkurtisctxt)
From: [personal profile] tabaqui
Heeeeee!
That would be fun. :)

Date: 2014-04-23 08:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kat-lair.livejournal.com
Iiiiiiinteresting, the song far more than the vid though I have scrupples. Mainly the words that imply that being a girl = being the one not in control/passive. I get where they're coming for and all kudos for willingness to switch and play with gender roles, but in a way this stll reinforces the traditional view of feminine = weak. Right, I'll stope my FEMDOM RAWR rant now.

Also, for a song like this I was disappointed that at no point the singer actually wears a skirt or anythign particularly 'feminine' (and no, skinny jeans don't count). And the ladies in the background are just... kind of there. At the very least surely one of them should've bent him over something?

Cheers for posting!

Date: 2014-04-23 10:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] citrusjava.livejournal.com
You. Are. Awesome. I agree. There are plenty of assumptions in this - girls are submissive, boys are tops/Doms, even just the assumption (assuming this involves a strap on, as I suspect is implied) that girls can't penetrate, and that girls are to be penetrated.

As for being weak, though, the other side of it for me - I find the movement of reclaiming weakness very meaningful, personally. I need the legitimacy to be unable and weak and still worthwhile. I was raised by a liberal feminist, to believe I must always be strong, able and responsible, even when it's completely impossible. I love the notion that admitting weakness and receiving compassion can be OK, can be brave. Especially as a sub.

Regardless, I definitely agree that connecting weakness with femininity is silly, incorrect and harmful. And I very much agree, regarding the video.

Thanks for discussing!

Date: 2014-04-24 08:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kat-lair.livejournal.com
I find the movement of reclaiming weakness very meaningful, personally. I need the legitimacy to be unable and weak and still worthwhile. - *nod nod* I probably used 'weak' too broadly there and you're right of course. What it boils down to is individual choice and right, whether that's a choice to enjoy subbing (I'd insert the 'subbing is not weakness and also you can be a both a sub and a feminist' speech here but I'm pretty sure you already sing on that choir *g*) or right not to have always be strong and capable, to break down and cry etc.

What rails me is when there is an automatic assumption that gender = particular attribute/role/behaviour. For reference, see about ~60% of male doms...

Date: 2014-04-26 02:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] citrusjava.livejournal.com
I'd insert the 'subbing is not weakness and also you can be a both a sub and a feminist' speech here but I'm pretty sure you already sing on that choir *g*

Yup! *smiles fondly*
*sends a high five*


What rails me is when there is an automatic assumption that gender = particular attribute/role/behaviour.


Yeah, yeah, agreed.

Ugh, do you mean that that many male doms assume that to be true?
I haven't rea;;y found many BDSM communities (that aren't related to fandom) that I want to participate in, so I don't really know what's going on.

Date: 2014-04-26 10:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kat-lair.livejournal.com
Oh, I'm not 'on the scene' so to speak, largely because I'm too introvert and busy, but I've been around to a couple of events and just on places like Fetlife to have seen some male doms who kind of make the assumption that female dom(me)s are just playing at it because they haven't found a Real Man who can top them yet. Not everyone of course, but like any other subculture, sexism is still around.

Interestingly, you see it in reverse too, in the attitudes of some male subs who want to be dominated by women. The problem is, some of them don't want a real person but some kind of fantasy of leather clad dominatrix barbie that doms them exactly the way they want to be dommed. I had one male slave (so he called himself) I was briefly considering for domestic service keep texting me 'suggestions' of what I should be doing to him and telling him to do and what names I should be calling him etc. Wishes and negotiation is one thing, but the attitude that speaks of 'if you were a real domme, you'd be doing/behaving/looking like x' gets real old, real fast.

Date: 2014-04-26 12:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] citrusjava.livejournal.com
I'm not 'on the scene' so to speak, largely because I'm too introvert and busy

I get that :)

male doms who kind of make the assumption that female dom(me)s are just playing at it because they haven't found a Real Man who can top them yet

UGH! *shudders*
That is so infuriating and disrespectful!


Not everyone of course, but like any other subculture, sexism is still around

Yeah, you're right. Geek subcultures, feminist groups being racist and transphobic and so forth - yeah :/
(I, however, am awesome and completely free of all prejudices ;))

I had one male slave (so he called himself) I was briefly considering for domestic service keep texting me 'suggestions' of what I should be doing to him and telling him to do and what names I should be calling him etc. Wishes and negotiation is one thing, but the attitude that speaks of 'if you were a real domme, you'd be doing/behaving/looking like x' gets real old, real fast.

UGH again! What a douche. The whole "you're here for my pleasure" attitude out of play, and definitely the "I'll question your worth to get you to prove it to me" attitude, remind me a lot of "pickup artists" (one of the most noxious brands of guys I don't want to meet). For me, I mostly want out of BDSM things that require a lot of trust and vulnerability, even if just for the duration of one session, but even if all I wanted was something technical without a lot of emotional impact, I wouldn't want to do that with someone who didn't respect or appreciate me. Ugh! I can somewhat relate to that, one of the reasons I stopped Domming was that I felt I was being used. I hear more and more about such experiences from other Dommes, too.


Date: 2014-04-27 05:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kat-lair.livejournal.com
hear more and more about such experiences from other Dommes, too. - Yeah, my impression is that it's not exactly rare sadly. The whole 'oh let me serve you, but they way I want to do it so that it fulfils my fantasies because those are obviously the more important ones' attitude. Yawn. Same old sexism, poorly masquarading as submission.

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