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ETA: I got a comment about this coming across as if I'm angry, so I should clarify - I'm not angry at all, this is just a thing that bothers me, and I was hoping people would find it an interesting topic to discuss. If not, go ahead and ignore.

OK.
(background first)
So, I agree that, for instance, including one gay character on a show, to be "the gay character" kinda sucks. I was so excited when I first found a book about two male police detectives working on a case. A story about something besides them coming out or going to pride or hating themselves, that sort of thing.

But even for detectives in a story about detective work, being gay would paint the way they interact with the world and perceive themselves in it, would paint the things that draw their attention or annoy them, something. I hate the whole "we are exactly like straight people" narrative. Life experiences paint who you are. Identity paints who you are.

So I very much doubt that even if the Winchesters were in an established relationship, the "incest thing" would just fade into the background completely. It IS part of their lives, their history, it matters that they're brothers because it's an important part of their history and relationship, and it matters that they are brothers because even if they are completely over it, they have to live in a world that is not, and that MATTERS! I really need more stories that don't disregard or erase that. There is room for fluffy comforty stories, and I get that not all writers want to focus on that, but it really bothers me that it's become a norm to disregarded it completely.

ETA: Even if it's established relationship, as a reader, I still need to be convinced it's awesome. )
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I'm pretty sure that most siblings who are attracted to each other or in love with each other NEVER act on it ever, never confess it, never find out whether it's mutusal, never get rejected, never talk about doing it or not, NEVER. What  do you mean  "it's so weird this never came up before"?! What do you mean, it's hard to sus[pend disbelief to write this?!

ok :)
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One of my favorite things about Jensen - or the way he seem to be etc - is one I very rarely find in fic.

I get the sense that Jensen considers it his responsibility to be there and to help people he loves. Perhaps not everyone, perhaps not in every - but I get the sense he's there for people. And for the longer run, too. If a friend were going through something, Jensen would care, would take it into account, would be supportive. If only in phone calls - in keeping that person in his thoughts. Even if Jensen weren't feeling all that stable himself, he'd want to be stable for a loved one. Not necessarily in one glorious action - just being there for the person, in subtle ways....

I wonder how come this is so rarely a point in fic - have I been reading the wrong fic?



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You know that part of writing, the "I'm a horrible writer, no one is going to want to read this, why did I ever start writing in the first place instead of taking up something productive like video game addiction"? Not writer's block, more like writer's terror?

How do *you* deal with it? I'd love to hear if you wanna tell me your stories of fun/misery/dealing.

Me, I try to soldier on, or I take a break to complain to friends and strangers (waves), or I try to do this with someone else going through the same thing, to hold each other's hand, or I try be kind but firm with myself, remind myself it's something I go through, many writers go through, Neil Gaiman goes through, and only a few lucky unknowns don't. And I'd very much like for someone to lock them up in a lab and do tests on them, to find out how that is possible, and more importantly, to keep them from telling me how easy and fun writing is. (sorry. I seriously don't mean that, and I guess those mythical creatures people have their own issues). This is actually kinda cute, in a self-helpy sort of way. When is the part where the joy is experienced, though? Wish I could just be doing my Spanish homework instead now.


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